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i got some bad new for u if u r trying to avoid RoS spoilers

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If you direct your attention to my conspiracy theory madness below about the original intended ("true") ending for Rise of Skywalker, it's a bit obvious that I'd like to play out scenarios where Ben does, in fact, survive the movie. The awkwardness around the Resistance and the entirety of space, Rey having to struggle with her desire to keep him safe at all costs vs her want to be open with her friends. And the both of them having to deal with the weight of the fact that Leia, Luke, and Han all sacrificed themselves for Ben. And the residual C-PTSD from this entire goddamn trilogy. also what color is ur lightsaber ben

Okay seriously tho. How pissed would poe be to find out leia gave her life to that piece of shit Kylo Ren? Also every time Rey or Ben thinks "oh we can just go talk to Le---" and then that sad piano music from scrubs plays.

Sad Lonely Housewife Ben Solo. With a black frilly Apron. I'm only partially joking

I'd actually dig something where he remains dead/gone for longer than just a few seconds. Like. Leia takes a bit to reboot into "Second Birth Of My Child" metaphor. It could take a few hours or even a few days and in the mean time Rey's just collapsing in on herself about everything away from all her friends. Isolating herself and "Oh wait. what the fuck. HE'S BACK"

Planet hopping with Ben and Rey on the "how the fuck do we even restart the Jedi Order" bus!!! Maybe they steal the falcon from Lando. Unsure how to justify it. Just know I want Han's son to swoop in and take the ship back because can Lando be all that mad about it tho?

Speaking of, how the fuck would Chewbacca and Lando feel about Leia's final sacrifice? Would they help Rey smuggle Ben while the galaxy celebrates his death? Would there be time limits or stipulations? Or maybe they're the first ones to figure out what Rey is hiding and what is that confrontation like?

For scenarios which follow along with the 'theatrical'/canon ending as it were. Rey absolutely losing her shit over Ben's death and he attempts to comfort her. Unsure that will work well, but that's the fun of RP. Her questioning whether it was him or a product of her imagination. And just her absolute inability to cope with the other half of her dead.

Rey goes Dark to get Ben back. Possibly against his wishes. He wants her to move on, she can't, she refuses. Time travel is always an option for this shit. And if she's successful, would Ben realize something's wrong? And if he figured out what she did.... would he actually care?

Alternate universe theories. Like not traditional AU, but through some Force fuckery a rift between the movie's canon and the intended ending occur. Rey finds Ben in this rift and just the absolute emotional meltdown that will occur from there.

Forcebond shenanigans, ofc.
Forbidden relationship bullshit is just part of the package ig
Arranged marriage is also just A++
Also now that we know how the fuck close Ben was to turning nearly the entire fucking time finding any other canon point and just fucking the entire timeline up
Ben actually HELPING the Resistance take down Palps before yeeting himself at Rey.
Ben having to wait awkwardly 15 ft away as Finn and Poe screech at Rey about her Supreme Leader Secret and Rose is just trying to do her best for everyone

No seriously. Can we kill off C3P0 for real?????

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โœจ The True Ending โœจ


Welcome one. Welcome all. I have brought all of you here today to say that YOU WERE LIED AND DECEIVED BY THE FORCES OF HOLLYWOOD AND UNCHECKED CAPITALISM. 'How?' You ask. And yes. I shall answer. It is simple:
The ending of the Rise of Skywalker was wrong

Wait. Excuse me. WHAT THE FUCK?
You read correctly, dear friends. Someone fucked with the editing of Rise of Skywalker and it changed the entire ending of the movie. It changed the characterization of three key characters and it's clear this was against the creator's wishes. I'll be breaking this down into a few key sections. What were the changes, Why I believe these changes were made (and made last minute), and do I consider this ending more or less canon then the theatrical ending. So. JOIN ME ON THIS ADVENTURE FRIEND

The plot changes/editing change
It's fairly simple. They changed Leia's role in the plot, this changed the entire direction of the last few minutes of the movie. Let me break the timeline down
โ€” Deathstar fight on the ocean still happens, Ben is distracted by Leia reaching out to him. She either still enters her "disappointment son" coma here, or perhaps simply just reaches out to him.
โ€” From here, the plot continues as normal. Ben and Rey both get to the sith rave separately.
โ€” Rey Dies
โ€” Ben Revives her and dies.
โ€” Leia chooses THIS MOMENT to die and give her life to her son
โ€” Ben is revived. He and Rey kiss.
โ€” Move to conclusion

WHAT EVIDENCE DO I HAVE THESE CHANGES WERE MADE (and at the last moment)
Take in note, my evidence is circumstantial, but circumstantial evidence still counts as proof
โ€” Leia's final role in the movie is insanely unclear. She also takes 12 hours to actually die or something. Again. Confusing
โ€” Ben's final words, as of this moment, are "OW". Adam Driver said he was nervous about his final dialogue in the movie to the point he stressed about it on the flight over. And. Man. IDK about you but OW seems a little unstressful to say
โ€” There was no Force Ghost Ben, a decision that is baffling story wise. It would take any competent VFX team hardly any effort to throw a ghostly adam driver next to Leia and Luke. And this would be advantageous to add to the plot if Ben was going to die, give that final bit of closure to the Skywalker fam.
โ€” Rey's near LACK of emotion over his death. Go watch her realize she has to leave Ben behind in TLJ and tell me that the difference isn't noticeable. It's completely against her character.
โ€” The weird beats of Leia going into her disappointment son coma and the other strange beats of Ben's death. Especially the fact that you only see him disappear in like. one shot.
โ€” None of the cast thought he was going to die
โ€” Wow I wonder why Adam Driver is adamant about never wanting to do star wars at this point?
โ€” Wow, why does disney keep resetting the character poll of who is the most anticipated character of this movie????
โ€” The prophecy about Ben's death is completely unnecessary at this point. If it was brought up during TFA, it's understandable to put that thread there. Instead it's in the last movie when his death seems to be a foregone conclusion???
โ€” So Rey's fine for Luke and Leia even tho she's palpatines kid, but Luke and Leia don't seem all that bothered by Ben's death??????
โ€” This was supposed to be Leia's film and complete her arc. And while I understand that there was a lack of footage to use for her, it's odd that she ended up not playing much of a role beyond "Distract Ben so he gets stabbed ig"
โ€” Every single hole in characterization for Luke, Leia, and Rey, every strange beat that didn't really make sense in Ben and Rey's fight on the ocean and during their ??? Mutual deaths???? and the some how rushed and dragged on ending can be solved by a simple solution. Occam's razor, Ben was never meant to die permanently.

โ€” The fact that there was no final dialogue for Ben after his talk with his father suggests he had something significant to say after his resurrection
โ€” The fact that they didn't have a cut of Rey absolutely LOSING HER MIND over losing to, what amounts to, the other half of her soul suggests that she was never supposed to lose him permanently
โ€” The fact that there is no Ben Ghost means that they didn't have the time to slip that in before pushing it out to theaters
โ€” The way the final scenes with Rey are shot and edited are, again, weird, off balance. It seems like it ends WAY TOO QUICKLY and far too on the nose.
โ€” no but really guys. His final words are "OW"
โ€” As for WHO changed it, because of the fact that this is clearly an edit job done at the last minute? I'm putting my money on a CEO that is above Kathleen Kennedy and JJ Abrhrams. I think their hands are tied ATM. This is the ending that had been planned for, this is the ending they wanted, otherwise there would not be such big holes that felt weird and dishonest to the characters. And, like, Kylo Ren/Ben Solo was JJ's child, he wouldn't have done him dirty like this.\

THEATRICAL ENDING/TRUE ENDING
I'm sure opinions would be divided on which ending is canon depending on the person. The theatrical ending will be what's considered canon in the universe of star wars at large. For myself, I find it hard to deny the creators and filmmakers the right to present the story they wanted to tell. So, in that way, both endings are true for me. Though, I am biased-- both as someone who is an artist myself and someone who adores Kylo Ren's/Ben Solo's character-- I like the story the film team were trying to tell over the agenda that whoever pushed for these changes had. Personally, I believe it pushes Star Wars as a universe forward into new territory rather than keep it stagnant in the same old same old that it's always been. Plus. this maintains the integrity of Luke, Leia, and Rey's characters, Ben was never forgotten, far too gone, or unloved. Leia gave him one final gift, a second chance.

That said, I'm not pushing this ending on anyone. I won't be playing it by default. I would rather ask permission or have someone else bring it up.


Sin Bin aka triggery bullshit

So no surprise. Kylo Ren/Ben Solo comes with a pile of situations that are. Questionable. this is just a short heads up section for anyone curious about what I'm willing to delve into:

- I'm a-okay playing out non/dubcon. However, this has to be discussed beforehand, especially if Kylo will be the aggressor. He's shown no sexual interest in anyone besides, Rey. He's not gonna be the weird Shoujo trope of "The troubled dude who just goes around molesting gals because he's got an itch to scratch". That ain't his MO. Rey is different because.... forcebond. However, depending on his canon point he will be more or less willing to ignore her consent. And after a certain point? He'd probably be rendered completely incapable of ignoring her consent. I imagine ForceBonds do not like when one half just kinda takes advantage of the other.

- On that note. I consider Kylo an abuse survivor. The abuse inflicted upon him was physical, emotional, and spiritual. I don't play or think of this as he was physically violated in a sexual capcity, but that his soul was constantly from the time he was even conceived until Palpatine's death. His thoughts and his desires truly were not his own, sexual desire was another way of control over him.

- I'm cool with him being taken advantage of. But expect not great results unless you some how get him to not force choke you as soon as you touch him okay

- Oh and this also means that he is prone to getting a little panicked when someone takes the reigns from him suddenly. So. JusT BE AWARE.

- if this shit ain't G for you? Please tell me and I can try to work with you.

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[personal profile] jedied 2020-02-05 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
[Look, Rey either has a thing for the gloves and/or I forgot he had them on, too. But she definitely has a thing for them. So yeah, that. Whoops.

She hums a small noise of approval at the touch of his mouth on her skin; she could honestly die happy (again) if they just took turns kissing one another all over every inch of exposed skin until their need for touch was satiated. Kind of like she's letting her hands do right now; wander over as much of him as she can easily reach, memorizing the planes of his body, every smooth muscle under taut and still slightly sweaty skin.

She wonders idly if this is a dyad thing or just a Rey thing; she's always been a bit touch-shy of her own accord. She'd never wanted to seek that contact from someone who could just go away.

It's anyone's guess why her brain decides to take the happy moment to a slightly morbid place in light of how nice this all is, but here we are.]



We probably should have figured it out before we had to kill my grandfather and then die.

jedied: you've set it running free (92)

I literally fell asleep halfway through writing this last night lmao

[personal profile] jedied 2020-02-05 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
[Fair enough; she'd even wanted to accept some of those times. Probably not strictly to fuck. That didn't mean she couldn't wish they'd gotten here sooner, somehow.


She also has... kinda no idea, when presented with those choices! They're all good ideas. Food would usually win, but it seems like a lot of effort and probably clothing. Sleep could probably happen since she's not actually planning on moving, though she could probably be ready to go again in no time at all, especially since hearing the word fuck from his lips does all kinds of good things to her. And they do have all their clothes off, finally.

And, well. Rey is absolutely a bit of a brat now that she realizes the kind of reaction it elicits.

So--]


Not hungry. Not sleepy, either, but if you need a nap after all that...

[God they're just going to annoy each other into fucking every single time aren't they?]


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[personal profile] jedied 2020-02-06 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
[Look, she's not good at bluffing. She's never gonna be with him. That's why she has to tease him a little so he doesn't just assume things that are entirely true.

They're gonna have to have the 'please stay out of my head sometimes' talk at some point, maybe. Which can also be the 'don't think so loud' conversation. Who are we kidding, these two can't converse like adults.

Instead she's just going to maneuver so she can slide on top of him, if he'll let her, so if he's gonna have that nap he's doing it wearing a Rey blanket. She can sleep anywhere, including directly on top of Ben Solo. And she's not going to be super sexually frustrated about it because they've done enough to take the edge off, probably, and a nap actually does sound fine. Really.

But she's also going to ruin any napping plans by leaning in to whisper the following sentence I never thought I'd make a character from a family franchise say:]


I think he'd mind watching you fuck me until I can't remember my own name.
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[personal profile] jedied 2020-02-06 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
[ngl that idea is super hilarious if only because Rey would love to be like what the hell is wrong with your droid, Poe????

However, no one's finding it out right this instant because Rey is on a mission. One that she's probably gonna regret when she can't walk straight the next day. But not really regret that much.

He keeps asking her questions she can't answer productively. What does she want to do?]


Anything. Everything.

[She punctuates her words with a series hungry little kisses with the occasional graze of teeth across his collarbone and down his chest; she could devour him alive right now. It's kind of ridiculous how much she wants him at her mercy even as she also wants him to take charge, flip her over, and fuck her til nothing else matters.]
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[personal profile] jedied 2020-02-06 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Rey would have had to have known her father to have a daddy kink otherwise let's not think too hard about her thoughts on Han Solo rn--

As far as her complete inability to make decisions does, she's just in a weird mental place. Her brain still feels like it wants to jump ahead seven steps of whatever it is she's currently doing. She's in that survival mode like she used to be every day on Jakku, when every day was a series of options and contingencies and being able to shift focus instantly the minute something went wrong.

She's not expecting anything to go wrong now, precisely -- it's just all so sudden and surreal that a part of her is waiting for the other shoe to drop. For reality to come crashing in before she can truly let her enjoyment of this time with him sink in ad become a part of her reality.

Perhaps she's still holding a part of herself back, even now.

It's all more than she can handle giving conscious attention to, so she doesn't try, though perhaps he'll pick up on a little of the why behind her odd jumpiness.

For now, she lets herself get lost in him a little more, in the feel and smell and taste of his skin as she trails kisses down his torso and pauses a moment with her hands at his hips to resettle herself between his legs in order to, well. Figure this out.

It's not a complete mystery, as she's stumbled across people in the act on Niima Outpost once or twice, and had gotten a few more details from Rose than she'd actually wanted to hear about at the time. It's just-- well.

He's bigger than most men, from what little she knows. It's going to be an interesting negotiation. But let it never be said that Rey of Jakku backs down from a challenge. She'll pause though, for a moment, to glance up at him just to check in, before she gently wraps her hand around the base of his cock and lets herself taste him in one slow, gentle, almost questioning lick.]


Is this okay? [She asks silently, because while she has an idea of what works for him she's not, you know, experienced at this. At all.]
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i didn't write this at the dentist, go me

[personal profile] jedied 2020-02-07 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
[He's more than welcome to absolutely wreck her hair; she'll probably make him fix it for her again in the morning. Their mutual hair kink is gonna make sure nothing productive ever gets done, it'll be great.

Right now she'll just continue to tease him with long, slow licks and little flicks of her tongue over the head of his cock as she just enjoys the taste and feel of him, getting to know the shape of him as she gives him a chance to recover a bit.

For her part, doing all of this has already started to make her ache to be touched again, but she's decided to try this whole delayed gratification thing and ignore the twinge between her legs to focus wholly on him for a while.]
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[personal profile] jedied 2020-02-08 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
[If they read this far they deserve what they get tbh.

Rey is trying to be conscious of the bond without allowing it to distract her; she's adoring the way he's writhing and coming apart for her. This is more than she'd ever dreamed of enjoying with him. She'd never dared to hope it would be anything remotely gentle, slow, or that he'd ever give her so much permission to do as she liked. He's a revelation like this and she's in no hurry to end it.

But, well. If he doesn't want her to stop, she's going to assume he likes that mingle of pain with pleasure and slowly, gently suck the tip of him into her mouth and then slide her mouth down his cock as much as she's comfortably able to start, careful to keep her teeth out of the way as much as, you know, a total beginner to this can.]
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[personal profile] jedied 2020-02-08 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
[Rey is super definitely not going to complain about multiple orgasms. What do you think she meant when she told him he could do whatever he wanted to her? She's preeeeettty sure the Force can get involved in this and hoo boy this is gonna go some weird places once he realizes she'll let him in her head for kink purposes.

Yup, this is definitely part of why Jedi aren't supposed to have sex; they'd literally do nothing else.

Rey is super enjoying all those delicious noises Ben's making and his attempt to get her as close as humanly possible. She's absolutely on board with this, and once she figures out how to properly breathe she's able to start a slow rhythm with her mouth and tongue, pausing now and then to come away enough to breathe and to let him have a moment. She still wants him inside her tonight, and if she lets him come now she's afraid it not going to happen.

If he's paying any attention to the bond at all he'll be able to sense that need from her, the desire to touch herself just to take away some of the ache that's making her want to rush things.]

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[personal profile] jedied 2020-02-09 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
[There's a surprised little cry that turns into a soft moan of pure need when he pulls her hair; it's startling but good but a lot right now, all things considered, and she's surprised enough to pull back a little but not enough to actually stop. She just needs. A second. To figure out how to obey that command without like, choking on his dick, since one of her hands is keeping her propped up a little and the other had been around the base of his cock to control how much she could take in.

Welp, she's just gonna have to trust him not to hurt her; good luck Rey.

Her fingers find her clit and there's nothing remotely elegant about any of this; she lets out another soft strangled noise of relief around him when she begins to touch herself the way she wants and surrenders a bit to the motion he's taken over; please do not accidentally kill her with your dick, Ben. She trusts you a lot right now.]


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[personal profile] jedied 2020-02-09 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
[That's all probably for the best because as much as Rey would be into asshole Dom Kylo Ren, this is a lot to handle right now on just a purely physical level.

She barely has time to signal her assent before he pulls her down further, just enough past her comfort level that she briefly panics and chokes a little, her eyes watering as she tries to suck in a breath and more or less succeeds.

Her desire fights with her actual capabilities for a minute; the forceful language and the sounds he makes send a spike of pleasure through her that makes her cunt spasm involuntarily with need even as her fingers stutter in their rhythm. She's definitely not super ready for this, but she doesn't want him to stop.]


Ben. Please.

[She's not sure what she's asking him, but nowhere in there is any sense of stop. It's more permission to keep taking control; keep telling her what to do and how to do it because she's overwhelmed and spinning a bit but she doesn't want him to stop.]
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my kids gave me their sore throat. shares advil and general lack of vibe.

[personal profile] jedied 2020-02-10 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
[He doesn't need to feel bad; she would have figured it out and she definitely wasn't hating any of it, but she's grateful for the reprieve. The literal and figurative breathing room, as it were.

She does as he requests and honestly he should just undo those buns right now but if he takes the time to do that, one or both of them are going to expire from sheer need to be fucked, so. Maybe later. His choice, really.

She'll lean back against him and just catch her breath and trust him. Especially because she can tell he's being careful and considerate in spite of the brief foray into very slight asshole Dom territory. She'll be fully on board with that stuff later, she promises.]
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my household had the plague so we all lose

[personal profile] jedied 2020-02-13 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
[Rey settles into him comfortably but doesn't get much time to relax before he's teasing her with his fingers and making her squirm against him. She gasps a little when his finger slips inside her; her hips buck a little of their own accord as she presses herself against his hand.

It's good, so very good. Her own technique is a bit quick and dirty, get this done so I can fall asleep and stop thinking, and really she's just wanted his hands on her, everywhere she can possibly have them, for so long that it was going to be good no matter what.

She can't quite figure out where her hands should go, so one of them grasps and tangles in the sheets while the other clasps over his hand as it works at her sex, not seeking to control or change anything, just trying to anchor herself a bit.]
Edited (better icon) 2020-02-13 03:08 (UTC)