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If you direct your attention to my conspiracy theory madness below about the original intended ("true") ending for Rise of Skywalker, it's a bit obvious that I'd like to play out scenarios where Ben does, in fact, survive the movie. The awkwardness around the Resistance and the entirety of space, Rey having to struggle with her desire to keep him safe at all costs vs her want to be open with her friends. And the both of them having to deal with the weight of the fact that Leia, Luke, and Han all sacrificed themselves for Ben. And the residual C-PTSD from this entire goddamn trilogy. also what color is ur lightsaber ben

Okay seriously tho. How pissed would poe be to find out leia gave her life to that piece of shit Kylo Ren? Also every time Rey or Ben thinks "oh we can just go talk to Le---" and then that sad piano music from scrubs plays.

Sad Lonely Housewife Ben Solo. With a black frilly Apron. I'm only partially joking

I'd actually dig something where he remains dead/gone for longer than just a few seconds. Like. Leia takes a bit to reboot into "Second Birth Of My Child" metaphor. It could take a few hours or even a few days and in the mean time Rey's just collapsing in on herself about everything away from all her friends. Isolating herself and "Oh wait. what the fuck. HE'S BACK"

Planet hopping with Ben and Rey on the "how the fuck do we even restart the Jedi Order" bus!!! Maybe they steal the falcon from Lando. Unsure how to justify it. Just know I want Han's son to swoop in and take the ship back because can Lando be all that mad about it tho?

Speaking of, how the fuck would Chewbacca and Lando feel about Leia's final sacrifice? Would they help Rey smuggle Ben while the galaxy celebrates his death? Would there be time limits or stipulations? Or maybe they're the first ones to figure out what Rey is hiding and what is that confrontation like?

For scenarios which follow along with the 'theatrical'/canon ending as it were. Rey absolutely losing her shit over Ben's death and he attempts to comfort her. Unsure that will work well, but that's the fun of RP. Her questioning whether it was him or a product of her imagination. And just her absolute inability to cope with the other half of her dead.

Rey goes Dark to get Ben back. Possibly against his wishes. He wants her to move on, she can't, she refuses. Time travel is always an option for this shit. And if she's successful, would Ben realize something's wrong? And if he figured out what she did.... would he actually care?

Alternate universe theories. Like not traditional AU, but through some Force fuckery a rift between the movie's canon and the intended ending occur. Rey finds Ben in this rift and just the absolute emotional meltdown that will occur from there.

Forcebond shenanigans, ofc.
Forbidden relationship bullshit is just part of the package ig
Arranged marriage is also just A++
Also now that we know how the fuck close Ben was to turning nearly the entire fucking time finding any other canon point and just fucking the entire timeline up
Ben actually HELPING the Resistance take down Palps before yeeting himself at Rey.
Ben having to wait awkwardly 15 ft away as Finn and Poe screech at Rey about her Supreme Leader Secret and Rose is just trying to do her best for everyone

No seriously. Can we kill off C3P0 for real?????

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โœจ The True Ending โœจ


Welcome one. Welcome all. I have brought all of you here today to say that YOU WERE LIED AND DECEIVED BY THE FORCES OF HOLLYWOOD AND UNCHECKED CAPITALISM. 'How?' You ask. And yes. I shall answer. It is simple:
The ending of the Rise of Skywalker was wrong

Wait. Excuse me. WHAT THE FUCK?
You read correctly, dear friends. Someone fucked with the editing of Rise of Skywalker and it changed the entire ending of the movie. It changed the characterization of three key characters and it's clear this was against the creator's wishes. I'll be breaking this down into a few key sections. What were the changes, Why I believe these changes were made (and made last minute), and do I consider this ending more or less canon then the theatrical ending. So. JOIN ME ON THIS ADVENTURE FRIEND

The plot changes/editing change
It's fairly simple. They changed Leia's role in the plot, this changed the entire direction of the last few minutes of the movie. Let me break the timeline down
โ€” Deathstar fight on the ocean still happens, Ben is distracted by Leia reaching out to him. She either still enters her "disappointment son" coma here, or perhaps simply just reaches out to him.
โ€” From here, the plot continues as normal. Ben and Rey both get to the sith rave separately.
โ€” Rey Dies
โ€” Ben Revives her and dies.
โ€” Leia chooses THIS MOMENT to die and give her life to her son
โ€” Ben is revived. He and Rey kiss.
โ€” Move to conclusion

WHAT EVIDENCE DO I HAVE THESE CHANGES WERE MADE (and at the last moment)
Take in note, my evidence is circumstantial, but circumstantial evidence still counts as proof
โ€” Leia's final role in the movie is insanely unclear. She also takes 12 hours to actually die or something. Again. Confusing
โ€” Ben's final words, as of this moment, are "OW". Adam Driver said he was nervous about his final dialogue in the movie to the point he stressed about it on the flight over. And. Man. IDK about you but OW seems a little unstressful to say
โ€” There was no Force Ghost Ben, a decision that is baffling story wise. It would take any competent VFX team hardly any effort to throw a ghostly adam driver next to Leia and Luke. And this would be advantageous to add to the plot if Ben was going to die, give that final bit of closure to the Skywalker fam.
โ€” Rey's near LACK of emotion over his death. Go watch her realize she has to leave Ben behind in TLJ and tell me that the difference isn't noticeable. It's completely against her character.
โ€” The weird beats of Leia going into her disappointment son coma and the other strange beats of Ben's death. Especially the fact that you only see him disappear in like. one shot.
โ€” None of the cast thought he was going to die
โ€” Wow I wonder why Adam Driver is adamant about never wanting to do star wars at this point?
โ€” Wow, why does disney keep resetting the character poll of who is the most anticipated character of this movie????
โ€” The prophecy about Ben's death is completely unnecessary at this point. If it was brought up during TFA, it's understandable to put that thread there. Instead it's in the last movie when his death seems to be a foregone conclusion???
โ€” So Rey's fine for Luke and Leia even tho she's palpatines kid, but Luke and Leia don't seem all that bothered by Ben's death??????
โ€” This was supposed to be Leia's film and complete her arc. And while I understand that there was a lack of footage to use for her, it's odd that she ended up not playing much of a role beyond "Distract Ben so he gets stabbed ig"
โ€” Every single hole in characterization for Luke, Leia, and Rey, every strange beat that didn't really make sense in Ben and Rey's fight on the ocean and during their ??? Mutual deaths???? and the some how rushed and dragged on ending can be solved by a simple solution. Occam's razor, Ben was never meant to die permanently.

โ€” The fact that there was no final dialogue for Ben after his talk with his father suggests he had something significant to say after his resurrection
โ€” The fact that they didn't have a cut of Rey absolutely LOSING HER MIND over losing to, what amounts to, the other half of her soul suggests that she was never supposed to lose him permanently
โ€” The fact that there is no Ben Ghost means that they didn't have the time to slip that in before pushing it out to theaters
โ€” The way the final scenes with Rey are shot and edited are, again, weird, off balance. It seems like it ends WAY TOO QUICKLY and far too on the nose.
โ€” no but really guys. His final words are "OW"
โ€” As for WHO changed it, because of the fact that this is clearly an edit job done at the last minute? I'm putting my money on a CEO that is above Kathleen Kennedy and JJ Abrhrams. I think their hands are tied ATM. This is the ending that had been planned for, this is the ending they wanted, otherwise there would not be such big holes that felt weird and dishonest to the characters. And, like, Kylo Ren/Ben Solo was JJ's child, he wouldn't have done him dirty like this.\

THEATRICAL ENDING/TRUE ENDING
I'm sure opinions would be divided on which ending is canon depending on the person. The theatrical ending will be what's considered canon in the universe of star wars at large. For myself, I find it hard to deny the creators and filmmakers the right to present the story they wanted to tell. So, in that way, both endings are true for me. Though, I am biased-- both as someone who is an artist myself and someone who adores Kylo Ren's/Ben Solo's character-- I like the story the film team were trying to tell over the agenda that whoever pushed for these changes had. Personally, I believe it pushes Star Wars as a universe forward into new territory rather than keep it stagnant in the same old same old that it's always been. Plus. this maintains the integrity of Luke, Leia, and Rey's characters, Ben was never forgotten, far too gone, or unloved. Leia gave him one final gift, a second chance.

That said, I'm not pushing this ending on anyone. I won't be playing it by default. I would rather ask permission or have someone else bring it up.


Sin Bin aka triggery bullshit

So no surprise. Kylo Ren/Ben Solo comes with a pile of situations that are. Questionable. this is just a short heads up section for anyone curious about what I'm willing to delve into:

- I'm a-okay playing out non/dubcon. However, this has to be discussed beforehand, especially if Kylo will be the aggressor. He's shown no sexual interest in anyone besides, Rey. He's not gonna be the weird Shoujo trope of "The troubled dude who just goes around molesting gals because he's got an itch to scratch". That ain't his MO. Rey is different because.... forcebond. However, depending on his canon point he will be more or less willing to ignore her consent. And after a certain point? He'd probably be rendered completely incapable of ignoring her consent. I imagine ForceBonds do not like when one half just kinda takes advantage of the other.

- On that note. I consider Kylo an abuse survivor. The abuse inflicted upon him was physical, emotional, and spiritual. I don't play or think of this as he was physically violated in a sexual capcity, but that his soul was constantly from the time he was even conceived until Palpatine's death. His thoughts and his desires truly were not his own, sexual desire was another way of control over him.

- I'm cool with him being taken advantage of. But expect not great results unless you some how get him to not force choke you as soon as you touch him okay

- Oh and this also means that he is prone to getting a little panicked when someone takes the reigns from him suddenly. So. JusT BE AWARE.

- if this shit ain't G for you? Please tell me and I can try to work with you.

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[personal profile] instinction 2020-01-13 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
[Rey was going to give herself until tonight, but maybe she should reconsider. Except the whole connection thing sounds nice, even though she tries explaining to Rose that she and Ben share a deep and profound connection without needing sex. He cares enough, she knows. And she doubts he's ever even touched another person so -

Wait.

Rose was definitely blushing a minute ago. Of course Rose knows all this from experience.
]

Are you and Finn...?

[It's the obvious question here, and rey is desperate to turn the tables.]
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[personal profile] instinction 2020-01-13 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
An agreement.

[Rey repeats, eyebrow arching. It takes her about two seconds to put together the bunking situation and realize there's one other piece of the puzzle.Involves Poe, Finn, and butt stuff. Cool.

It makes sense. They're all always together. Bunking together. Working together. Everyone else probably already knows this, Rey's just now catching up. And she looks impressed with you, Rose. you go, Tico.
]
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[personal profile] instinction 2020-01-13 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
[Well it's time to get out of this conversation with a little dignity intact. She presses a hand against Rose's shoulder as she agrees to contact her soon. She slips away and heads off to corner Finn into a conversation. It's awkward and clipped, and she can tell he wants to ask her to stay. He doesn't though, and whether it's because of Rose or something Lando said to him she isn't sure. There's hurt in his eyes though, and she knows that it will take time to fix the damage she's caused to their friendship.

One tight hug later, Rey is making her way back to Ben with droids in tow. They've been casually following her for a while, with R2 now in the mix. She knows she can't bring BB-8 with them, and takes time to crouch and say goodbye.

She feels ready to head out at that point, and goes to get Ben. She finds him sitting on the edge of her small bed and motions with a nod of her head for him to come with her. She very pointedly stares at his crotch as he gets up. Thanks Rose. As if he can read her mind, R2 beeps and whirs in approval.
]

They're finishing emptying the Falcon of supplies, then we're free to go.
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[personal profile] instinction 2020-01-13 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
[Rey, on the other hand, is pretending that this isn't awkward at all. She's not smiling or socializing, but she seems calm on the outside. Only Ben would feel that she's tense and anxious, and impatient to go. She helps Chewie pack away things that they'll need, and guides her droid army to their stations. BB-8 will have to stay behind, because she knows Poe isn't likely to let her babysit for a long time.

R2 and D-O go with her to finish any necessary repairs, as she leaves Ben to either help Lando or Chewie. She watches BB-8 roll out of the ship to find Poe and feels the need to keep her hands busy so she doesn't feel sad. Thankfully, C-3PO in all his complaining glory makes his way on board and lets everyone know that Master Poe thought it would be best if he came on board to be with his family.

Great. That's...fine. Really. Rey never gets sick of hearing him bitch.

By the time they're basically ready to take off, Rey's heading through the ship with D-O at her heels. He rolls ahead when Ben's spotted, and bumps right into him a couple of times before rolling off to the side and back over to her. Rey laughs as she approaches. Droids are so precious.
]

We won't be needed for a while. I think we might be able to slip away.

[To shower!! And discuss a plan of action. Obviously.]
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[personal profile] instinction 2020-01-13 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
[Rey just arches an eyebrow and doesn't say anything at first. She's not annoyed but she doesn't have an answer for that question. There aren't a lot of places to go.]

You used to know this ship better than anyone.

[She's making assumptions here. Surely his father had him on board while he was growing up.]

Where did you go hide away when you were younger?

[He's a lot taller and bulkier now but surely he'll still be able to find somewhere that makes him feel at ease. Because here comes Threepio calling out 'Master Solo!' He's stalking you, Ben. ]
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[personal profile] instinction 2020-01-15 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
[Rey thinks she knows every nook and cranny of the ship herself, up until Ben leads her to a tiny maintenance hatch. It feels like there's barely enough room for him, but she still moves to sit with him now. Her hand goes over her mouth to muffle the sound of laughter as Threepio waddles by rambling. It shouldn't be funny to do this. She shouldn't be laughing after everything they've been through the past day or so. But she feels light, with a newfound sense of excitement at what the future might hold.

Everything is about to change.

There's no better way to celebrate that than cramming in a small hatch with Ben to hide away for awhile.

Once the threat of nanny-droid has passed, Rey's hand drops away and she finds herself smiling.
]

I can't believe there used to be room in here for you to fall asleep.

[Meaning: you've gotten huge, Ben. Real swol.]
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[personal profile] instinction 2020-01-15 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
[She's definitely imagining how that played out for the Solo family. It's a nice distraction from thinking about just how she's pressed up against him, and the fact that puts her only fabric's length away from his dick. Thanks, Rose. She'll never stop thinking about this now.]

I hid from Unkar Plutt all the time when I was younger. I always thought he'd try to find me.

[Spoiler: he never did, and she would spend hours hiding in ship wreckage and ruins because she was eight and still would try playing games. She grew out of that, thankfully.

There's a short stretch of quiet after that, and she leans back to press against him a little more. He's comfortable.
]

Have you ever questioned how things would have gone differently if we had met as children?

[Except he's like 10 years older than her so they wouldn't really have been kids at the same time but details.]
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[personal profile] instinction 2020-01-15 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
[Rey makes a soft sound, something vaguely saddened. She never liked imagining the what ifs or the possibilities of a situation. It's far easier to deal with the present and the facts of reality. Trying to think of life where Ben had never turned to darkness was almost mind-boggling.]

We wouldn't have been alone.

[It's all she can come up with, some kind of comforting thought that they can latch onto. She can still remember those early nights on Jakku, crying herself to sleep out of fear and missing her parents. She probably projects those thoughts to him, sorry ben.]

It doesn't matter now. We don't have to be alone ever again.
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[personal profile] instinction 2020-01-15 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
[She turns her head so he has to press his against her temple. Sitting like this is surprisingly nice, she thinks she can get used to it. Her hand slowly slips upward to press against his cheek. With his head dipped, her fingers can curl into his hair and she marvels at just how much he really needs a shower. She's sure she does too.]

I think that you've always tried protecting me, on some level.

[While it's hard to see that all of his methods of attempting to stalk find and get her to go with him as protection, she understands the intent more now that they've been in each other's head. He does love her, and she knows it as certainly as anything else.]

It's how I knew you would turn.

[Ahem. Not to get into that old argument again. But there is one thing she really wants to know.]

Do you regret it happening?
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[personal profile] instinction 2020-01-15 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Good.

[She retorts right before he kisses her, and smiles against his lips. She's definitely a fan of kissing him, and would prefer to keep it going. Who cares if the engines are kicking in and they're not in the best place to launch into hyperspace?

They've earned this tiny literal hole in the wall and should get to stay there until they're ready to come out.
]

Regretting coming back to me isn't allowed either.

[Her palm presses more firmly against his cheek and she kisses him again, the angle awkward but she's able to work with it.]
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[personal profile] instinction 2020-01-15 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, completely.

[Rey laughs, unable to keep from grinning like an idiot. He'll be able to see it now that they're facing one another but she doesn't really care. It's good to smile and feel some happiness. Even if she's a little unsure sitting here's a great idea. She seems like she's ready to have to brace herself at any given second.]

I think I might have started to regret it the second I heard the words tour of the galaxy.

[Her hand seeks out his, and she presses her palm against his. Her fingers splay out to align against his, and she's reminded of the first time their hands touched while she was on Ahch-to. Her eyes close for a second as she simply basks in the sensation of actually being able to touch him like this, without worry of anyone walking in on them.

Except there is the real worry of Chewie hunting their asses down.
]
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[personal profile] instinction 2020-01-16 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
[Rey's pretty embarrassed and isn't sure she wants to face Chewie or anyone else for a while. Both hands are covering her face and she at least can laugh through her embarrassment. Because why can't she just have a moment of peace with the guy whose dick she wants to measure??

Life isn't fair.
]

It was practically a demand.

[Chewie was a great furdad, making sure his kids were clean before they hid in a closet and made out. But he's not still standing there so Rey drops her hands from over her face and leans in to steal another kiss.]

You should go first.

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